Can we decide to get up one day, and change the way we’re living, who we are, and have a completely different lifestyle? Chase Boehringer did. He’s spent most of his life being a “normal person”: force fitting into the system, slowly sinking into depression, until a serious desire to commit suicide took hold of him. Chase hit rock bottom before coming to a decision: “I don’t want to be this way”. So he started in the smallest way: with an idea.
“What do I want to do before I die?”
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Chase Boehringer: No, that’s not normal. You know, normal is what we’re striving for. So I did the white picket fence. I did the get into big debt. I know a lot of people do that and I just kind of succumbed to mediocrity. I really was thinking about committing suicide very seriously and when I decided not to, everything after that was just like extra innings. It was free time.
Athena Rosette: Welcome to Alter ego. So what is alter ego? Well, it’s not about ego or ego trip. It’s really about exploring the different personalities and characteristics of who we are internally. Not just in our interpersonal communications with others but our intra-personal communication with the individual persons that really add up to be us, who we are. When we explore for them and we express them, we create such a rich life of greater happiness, greater contributions, to our self, to our families, to others, to our organizations, our courses and missions. And when we don’t address them when we suppress them, it causes so many challenges including physically, emotionally, spiritually or otherwise.
So can we just decide to get up one day and change the way we’re living, change who we are and have a completely different lifestyle? That’s exactly what Chase did. He went from being a “normal person”, fitting within the prescribed framework that we’re so often squeezed into like lemmings. Remember that computer game? That reference probably when it lands on children of the ninety’s. Anyway it means to follow like mindless drone into whatever people tell you to do, using only your narrow range of specifically allotted abilities and tasks.
So back to Chase. He was a lemming. And one day he’d had enough. He was backed into a wall. He wanted to commit suicide and made a decision “I don’t want to be this way”. So who did he want to be? He started with a bucket list of all the things he wanted to do before he died and then he became that person who would do all of those things and he left his old life behind.
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Chase Boehringer: So I’m Chase Boehringer and I am a traveler I did not always used to be a traveler though when before I had discovered my alter ego. I was a caregiver and I had all these big huge dreams in my head and it was all going to be impossible for me I was I was just basically one of those normal people. I quote unquote normal people and I really I didn’t know how to get out of that and after writing a bucket list is actually writing it down and chasing after it, I was able to encapsulate this dream life that I had set out for myself and now I feel like I’m there, I finally made it, and I’m able to live that alter ego that I had had my whole life.
Athena Rosette: OK. So when you said that you were “normal person” before, can you describe what that looks like?
Chase Boehringer: Yeah I’d love to. It’s super sad.
Athena Rosette: Sorry normal people.
Chase Boehringer: Exactly. I mean I was fifty pounds heavier than I am now. I had never traveled in my life. I was from a town of three hundred people and I had recently moved to the big city of three thousand people. I worked as a caregiver at a job that was somewhat fulfilling on some level, but it was nowhere near what I knew was possible for myself and what I really should be doing with my life.
So I was depressed. I recently had been divorced and it was a very crushing, painful divorce. So I had been really depressed and my life was on a downward spiral and I just seemed like it was going nowhere. My decisions that I had made had led me to this point where I was just drastically overweight divorced caregiver.
Athena Rosette: Got it OK that paints the picture pretty strongly. So was there a side of you that felt like “oh I’ve always wanted to travel, or I’ve always wanted to live a different lifestyle that was waiting to come out?”
Chase Boehringer: There was. It had been in there and I have always been a very different person, I haven’t always fit in. I’m an extrovert and I’m a good communicator so I fit in with friends but I’ve always been different. But I continuously suppressed that, because my environment that I was in my entire life, it wasn’t really fanning the flames of my adventurous mind. So I just pushed those away thinking “No that’s not normal”. Normal is what we’re striving for. So I did the white picket fence. I did get into big debt and I took a job that was not what I had always wanted to do but it was enough to pay the bills, and I know a lot of people do that and I just succumbed to mediocrity.
Athena Rosette: That’s interesting. So when you said that you never really considered yourself to be a normal person but you shaped yourself into that, what effect did that have on you as a person?
Chase Boehringer: Well I didn’t really know it, to be honest. It’s almost like what you don’t know doesn’t hurt you, because for me it was like I had convinced myself through all my beliefs, that no this is who I am because I knew that this is normal. So I told myself that “no this is just right now, this is just for now. I’m going to be a caregiver to make just enough money. I’m going to buy a house. I’m going to do these things”.
So it wasn’t really depressing me because, I had told myself that this is normal and I didn’t even really feel it until it all came crashing down and then when all my life all those decisions came to a head at once it was an eye-opener, it was just like my entire Universe had exploded and I could actually see or see clearly what had happened.
Athena Rosette: Yeah. That makes a lot of sense. What was the initiation point for you from deciding to make that shift into becoming a traveler?
Chase Boehringer: You mean like a catalyst?
Athena Rosette: Yeah that’s what I mean. That it’s the catalyst that changed that for you.
Chase Boehringer: Yes. Honestly it was when things got so dark that there was no more going down. My wife had left me for one of my good friends and I was in an incredibly depressed state because it was like a religion for me. I got married in nineteen years old, so everything in my life up to that point was like “this is reality”. I told myself this is the reality. This is fact. When that all showed itself on what the real truth is, it was like wow! And I had to totally reevaluate my life completely.
I said “OK where do I want to go from here?” I can either commit suicide or I can just stay depressed and I can just continue on my path that I’ve chosen or I can just go a little crazy and just do whatever I want it felt like I was living in extra innings at that point because, I really was you know thinking about committing suicide very seriously. When I decided not to, everything after that was just like extra innings. It was free time.
Athena Rosette: it’s interesting that you bring a suicide because, I feel like oftentimes we get to this place where we feel like it’s a rock bottom before we’re willing to actually step outside of those comfort zones and step outside of the safety or the norms and allow ourselves to really to step into something else.
So it’s interesting that you bring that up just because, I think so many people can really relate to that. I’ve definitely had some rock bottoms myself and I haven’t gotten to the place of feeling like I want to take my life, but you definitely sometimes think about like “um what would it be like to not be doing this anymore.”
Chase Boehringer: There’s no other way that you really see and you just say “oh wow! His would be really easy like this would be so much better than dealing with all this pain.
Athena Rosette: Yeah totally. So I’m curious about when you did make that shift, when the catalyst really took action for you and you decided to make some changes. How did that look?
Chase Boehringer: Yeah it was actually writing a bucket list down so it was like all the things that I wanted to do before I die, I decided to just write them out. I really thought that it wasn’t going to be true. It turned out to be a massive step in my evolution of my life, but at the time it didn’t really feel like it. It felt like I was wishing on birthday candles and I was just like “oh I would be so cool to run with the bulls and be so cool to like do this and kiss at the top of the Eiffel Tower and do all these things at that point”. I was still I was still stuck in darkness, so it wasn’t really like it didn’t feel real until I started actually taking the first step and planning and seeing how much money it would really cost to do some of the stuff or like or just do a simple.
When I started my first one was doing a cart wheel. I had always wanted to do a cartwheel my whole life and I had never been able to because I was always a really big guy. So I just typed into You Tube like “a big fat guy doing a cart wheel”, and they taught you how to do a cartwheel. After doing that first one I just felt so good about myself and I was like wow! I never thought that I’d be able to do that my whole life and it seems so simple. But for me, it was like it was the first step on a really magical adventure that I have not stopped.
Athena Rosette: That’s so cool. I think that just like homing in on that lesson right there, I think it’s so important because a lot of times and we think about “how do I make massive change in my life, how do I do that?”, Well oftentimes it’s just one little thing at a time. Take on something that you can that’s manageable and approachable, and do it and then you build that success, you build that report with yourself that “I am somebody who sets out to accomplish something and does it”, and then you just get bigger and bigger and go from there.
Chase Boehringer: Yeah I love that. That’s so much clarity. Basically you just took what I said and just completely had perfect clarity on that. Because for me, it’s all about tangible results and about the things where I’m like “wow! I am actually crossing things off”. And as a more masculine man, I feel like I’m very goal oriented.
So I see this goal, this list of one hundred things and I’m able to say OK every single one. I’m like “oh I’m closer to my goal” or each one is a goal in itself. So for me, I’m able to just cross off that next goal and it feels so good as I’m doing it, but it also feels good because I’m getting closer to the completion of the goal, I guess I’d call it. I never really have thought about it that way until I just said it now, but really it is a goal for me and each step used to go towards the goal of living my dream life. I recently crossed that off in March. One of my items was to think to myself that I’m living my dream and in Colombia I was able to do that. I really feel like I’m living my dream life. I give a lot of that too to my list, but I give more of it to the type of man I’ve become, to actually stick to the list and actually see it as a blueprint for my life.
Athena Rosette: Yeah. I am on that path right now Man, I tell you. That whole taking baby steps making small goals and then going toward that big will is like that’s been a continual challenge and a continual a journey for me lately. So it’s cool to hear you say like “I’m living my dream life:”
I think my life is fricking amazing, I tell you. But there’s definitely things that I feel like I want to get to the place of just feeling at peace with like “OK this is no longer a stress zone for me, this is a zone of ease and Grace and…
Chase Boehringer: I love that. I know exactly what you’re talking about and I didn’t get there for a really long time years of on this path. It really it came from inner peace, because once you can realize that nothing externally can affect what’s happening inside on a deep level. Of course things going to happen on a surface level or like some guy really pissed me off, he didn’t pay me this loan that he owed me or like yeah I’ll get you know mad for a couple hours and like “oh darn!”
But then I come back to my centered self and realize in that once you have that deep down self-love and that deep peace within, I think that’s when true happiness reveals itself to you and you’re able to just say whatever happens externally is not going to affect how centered I am deep down.
Athena Rosette: Yeah that’s great. So going back to your ultra-ego being a traveler, can you tell me about how that developed? And then I’m also curious, just because when I think about having an ultra-ego a lot of times, it’s something that is different from a perceived self, like you have yourself as who you are and then this ultra-ego is another side of you that comes out either in specific situations, maybe it’s like under stress or it’s in a place of being liberated a place of freedom. So tell me a little bit about that for you what that means.
Chase Boehringer: I love that because for me, going from my world that I was living in, where I had never travelled, I never really done anything epic, to beginning to get out of that comfort zone. The first trip I ever took and the first big thing I ever did was actually went running with the bulls in Spain and that was like my alter ego on steroids, because it was like the release of this thing with that I had within me that I had been suppressing for so long and I had finally been able to be like “Release yourself onto the world! It was incredible, but at the same time, when I came home, I immersed myself back with the same exact environment, the same job, the same issues and challenges that I was facing, so I came back to my reality and my world. Each time that I would travel which at that time was about once every three to four months, I would go and travel and that’s when I would be able to let him out. That’s when I’ll be able to let true happiness and true wild adventurous character out. It took me a long time to have that alter ego become my personality and become my every day.
Athena Rosette: That’s so interesting. What we’re talking about right now is what I’ve been noticing as a trend over the interviews that I’ve done so far, is that oftentimes this other self, starts out as an alter ego. It’s like this I can only be this this person or this, either a full expression or partial expression of myself in specific situations and I only feel safe or comfortable to express that there but not here. I can’t bring it back here. Then this process starts to happen where you become more and more at ease with that you either put yourself in that environment often enough, surround yourself with the people that know you to be that person for long enough and then suddenly this transition has happened, or there’s an integration that happens after a certain point you know.
Chase Boehringer: Yeah.
Athena Rosette: So then it’s no longer an alter ego it’s like well that’s just I am.
Chase Boehringer: Exactly and I love that you say that. For me like when I think of that alter ego, I really think that that’s our true selves that we’re too scared to fully integrate yet. Like at this moment, we might be too scared to be like “OK this is me and this is who I am, not like my happiest purest state”, but we might not be ready to let that out yet and we’re just waiting for it to get brave enough through our experiences, to actually let that out. We continuously go into this normal society, this belief that we have of our self that slowly changes when we let that alter ego, our truest form of ourselves come out and see the light and when we experience that, we feel that feeling deep down inside of us, that’s when we’re like “OK this is true for me, this is real for me”.
Athena Rosette: So tell me about some of those things that you discovered about yourself.
Chase Boehringer: Yeah. So I really discovered the intangibles. It was all about the feeling that I had when I would honestly at the beginning it was when I almost died. It was the things that I did when I was really crazy that started to make me vibrate and started to make me feel like “whoa I’m alive, I’m really alive”. And it started with that feeling and then things started to slow down in a great way.
I went to the extremes at the beginning because I was in such an extreme in the opposite direction on a low point that I went to the extreme and the other direction as a very high point. And then it started to kind of settle down and I started to look inside of myself and I said OK. Like I was surrounding myself with the right people especially while traveling, where I was able to look inside and know who I am and to love who I am.
And so for me, the greatest things that I learned was who I was and what my purposes on this earth. For me my purpose is truly to love and to help others on their path see the path that I’ve found, and to help them walk it as well.
One other thing that I wanted to really hit hard on and one of the biggest things that I learned while experiencing on this path, is that happiness has nothing to do with possessions, happiness has nothing to do with net worth, it’s the poorest people I’ve ever met in my life, people with no electricity, no books, no radio, no nothing and they burn yak poop to stay alive and stay warm, those seem to be the happiest people on earth. And that’s such a wild thing to say, but it seems that when you get to a certain level of poverty, where they’re not looking at “Oh that guy has an I Phone or that guy has this cool watch”. They don’t care whatsoever about that and I think that true happiness, is when you stop craving. You stop craving what others have and you just accept what you have and you love that. And you say like this “This is where I am and I’m so happy”. If something else comes into my life great but if not I’m very happy where I am.
Athena Rosette: so something that came out for me in what you just said right there that resonated for me was, beyond just how much money we have or don’t have or where we’re at and the scale of poverty to wealth as far as actual dollar bills. I think sometimes I’d look at it be like “oh see to be happy, you have to have not very much money or anything, that’s the way to do it. But I think it goes beyond that into the point of regardless of what you have or don’t have just being thankful. I think of you don’t have that much, it’s like you have to like get to this point really “Hey if I’m going to be happy, I’ve just got to be happy because if it’s about having money, well I don’t have it so. So what now? So you’ve got to do that.
But I think for myself, I fall into this ridiculous kind of back and forth, trapped I suppose with happiness. Because on the scale of where I’m at in the world like, I’m ridiculously wealthy compared to somebody who’s burning yak poop. Like I’m filthy fricking rich. But on the scale to people that I know or hang out with like I’m poor. And I lot of times I end up comparing myself to people that “ahead of where I’m at”, which is the most ridiculous thing to say anyway and just allow myself to be dissatisfied with what I’ve created or with what I have, and it’s just ridiculous.
I think it just is a great reminder for me to just be so fricking thankful for what I have and there’s no reason for me to be dissatisfied at all. Sure, it’s like having motivation, having drive, having the desire to create more with what I have the ability to do, I think is totally natural and healthy, but not to lose sight of the thankfulness for what I have, which I think is where like happiness comes from. But it’s so fricking true.
Chase Boehringer: It really is. No it’s a cliché things I find all the time are like the truest things, that is a reason they’re great because, it’s like they’ve stood the test of time. I mean for thankfulness has been a huge thing for me it while travelling so going to places like the Middle East and going to places in South America and really all over the world, where they are not in a very good place and I say that only externally. I’m not in a good place because I just there’s trash burning everywhere and there’s wild packs of dogs and things like that, external things, makes me so thankful to live in a place where I can turn on hot water any time I want, and realize now that most of the world doesn’t have that. Most of the world cannot just turn on hot water. They can’t just take a hot shower on a cold day, that’s not a thing, and let alone clean water.
So I think that just really appreciating the tiny things and it’s really hard to do and that’s you’ve experienced it, because I know that intellectual knowledge is nothing compared to experiential. I mean we if we can know that there are starving children in Africa, we can know that most of the world doesn’t have hot water let alone clean water, but that’s nothing compared to experience it experiencing it.
Athena Rosette: Yeah. So going back to you coming into being your alter ego and your bucket list, I’m curious about some of the things on your bucket list that really stand out to you, that really made a difference for you and how those informed your alter ego
Chase Boehringer: One of my favorite ones, was realizing how easy the incredible things are. So for me it was fly an airplane. That was one of my items; be a pilot flying airplane. And I thought that was going to be so hard. I was like “I don’t even know how this is possible and I’m going to have to get like a pilot’s license this seems so ridiculous”, and within one day I got on Groupon, and got a fifty nine dollars to fly an airplane and pilot’s license. I paid fifty nine dollars and I went in the same day, I flew an airplane, I took it off by myself and I have landed it by myself with the guy just sitting next to me not touching the wheel at all, in one single day I did that.
Athena Rosette: You were like “bucket list down!!”
Chase Boehringer: I said “oh my gosh! These incredible things, when you just realize that that they’re not impossible. That not only are they not impossible, they’re fairly easy to do if you just take that a little bit of effort and energy to plan it, you can do it. I mean someone has done whatever you want to do before and not only that someone’s probably done it on a budget.
Athena Rosette: That’s a good point. So how did that change the way that you either felt about yourself or the way that you related to yourself?
It opened up the world for me in the sense that everything was easy. And for me I have this mindset and this belief now that everything is easy, because before it was that everything is hard or any everything that wasn’t in my life currently was hard to get. Oh that’s hard, it’s hard to get money, it’s hard to travel. You have to be rich to travel. For me a huge part of it, I learned was travel hacking and how to do this stuff are really cheap and almost or basically free and that was a massive part for me realizing that I could do it, because that was the biggest thing holding me back. Oh this is hard. This is how everything in my life seems to be hard or at least I told myself that, to keep me in that comfort zone because when you tell yourself that. “Oh everything that I don’t have now is hard to get”, it’s a great way to keep you exactly where you are and to keep you in your comfort zone and not growing.
Athena Rosette: I’m listening to what you’re saying and I’m like “oh my god! I’m thinking things are hard right now. Yeah, is this is a copout?”
Chase Boehringer: It might be. It’s something to look into.
Athena Rosette: Darn it, Chase
Chase Boehringer: I’m sorry I got I thought I have to.
Athena Rosette: I love it. I love it. I love to be gotten so good. So tell me a little bit about that, because he said that part what you’re doing now with stepping into your alter ego is helping other people in the same way.
Chase Boehringer: Yes definitely. So I did this in a few different ways. So I have a business called The Bucket List lifestyle, where I teach people how to travel hack. I try to inspire people to get out of their comfort zones and have a life outside of that mediocrity in the rat race. So I give a lot basically free resources and value and then I also I’m a lifestyle coach. So I help people get from this job and this lifestyle that they’ve put themselves in exactly like I did, and I help them work through that mindset of getting out of it and then also like step by step planning, on how to get into this dream life that they might have for themselves, because right now it probably seems impossible. It did for me. It was like “that’s crazy” and I have no idea how I’m going to do it. But if you’re able to talk to someone who has actually done it and done it recently, you’re able to be like “wow this is possible for me, I’m no different than he was.
So I find that that’s a really big and really important thing to be doing in this world is getting people out of their mediocrity and into their alter egos, into this super hero, this person that they know is somewhere deep down inside of them. I like to fish that out.
Athena Rosette: I love that says speaking of alter egos. I imagine that coming into the experience of being a coach was probably a pretty different thing for you. Did you feel like you had to put it on almost like an alter ego in a way and you could step into it?
Chase Boehringer: Yeah so I really tried to. Everyone had said when I first started coaching like “oh a coach isn’t a hat that you put on, it’s just something like who you are, It’s just like something that you win by body at all times”. My first six months of that was like “I don’t know if I’m this guy”. I feel like I want to be helping, I feel like I have this ability and I’m good at it, but I feel like it’s hacked in some ways that I put on and I just kind of take this little part of myself and I bring it into the light. I wasn’t fully on bodying that until and I don’t even know if it was a specific time or date, I think that I had just realized that I was helping so many people when I put that hat on, when I actually own to this alter ego of mine of this helper, this coach, when I put that on to help people and that helped, that was my purpose on earth.
So I became that. I naturally became that because I had this belief that I was here to help, and when I put that alter ego on, I help. So that alter ego kind of became who I was at all times.
Athena Rosette: Yeah. Do you feel like you’re in a place where you’re just integrated into that person now that’s just who you are and what you do?
Chase Boehringer: Yeah. There is absolutely no question. This is not who I always was, that’s for sure, but it is now. It was a part of me somewhere deep down inside of me, but I hadn’t really shown at the light and now this is just like I’m just walking this. I find myself even having to pull back a little bit because I never want to give unsolicited advice and I always want to make sure that the person I’m talking to is like open to have a little bit of coaching around that.
So I’m very good at communicating that first, but there was a time where I was just like owning this and I was just walking around like this pseudo Jesus like “let me heal you and all of your problems” people didn’t want to be healed. So I’ve gotten much better at communicating that and trying to be very clear in what I’m saying. Before I do any kind of coaching I’d be like “do I have full permission for this from this person?” Because when you walk around like “oh I’m owning, I’m the guy who is here to help”, and not everyone wants to be helped or not everyone is vulnerable in that space that they’re in right now and you can’t just do that. You can’t just walk around giving everyone these pills of what I believe to be true.
Athena Rosette: Yeah you know I think that brings up a really good point, because I’ve just been in a place where I’ve been that person that’s like “let me tell you” And what I realized was like through my own process, my own journey of self-development and just helping, just working with myself through coaches that I’ve worked with and things like that is, that person is really doing it it’s like they’re a facilitator, they’re an instigator, they’re a spark, there’s somebody who can help direct. But really it’s like I’m the one that’s doing the work and if I’m willing to do it or not, that it’s going to happen or not and that this person can assist me, but I realize like coming from that perspective, when I’m trying to share things that I have learned about myself or that I know it’s like “OK I’m not going to be able to heal this person”. They can heal themselves and I can facilitate and help that, but then it’s really just shifted the way that I look at it, so I’m not like trying to go for some healing on you.
Chase Boehringer: You’re welcome. You’re welcome to my presence.
Athena Rosette: We felt like such an asshole and it’s hilarious. That’s like a total. I think everybody who is a coach in some form or another goes through that journey, goes through that experience.
Chase Boehringer: So excited or more like “oh I just feel I just helped all these people and I’m like “oh that person is so fucked up, I need to help them, and that’s such a bad place to come from, but that’s where a lot of people come from. It is like you just see all this pain everywhere and you’re like “oh I want to help that person and the next, and like you’re looking at every one of your friends in your family and you’re like “oh I can totally heal everybody”, when in reality you just got to check yourself and you’ve got to say you’re letting your ego, this alter ego has turned into a alter large ego.
Athena Rosette: Super ego. So I have a question for you about when you were coming into this full expression of yourself, what were some of the challenges that arose from the place of it being an alter ego versus being your fully embody self.
Chase Boehringer: There was so many. The biggest one that I can think of right now is the fact that like I previously mentioned briefly, I grew up in a town of about three hundred people and you don’t just like pack a bag and leave. It’s not like you can just change exactly who you are on a whim. It’s like “oh this is who you are, this is your place, you’re a cog in the wheel and this is just who you are you don’t really change that”. So for me when I started to do epic things, I got a lot of pushback from people and I heard a lot of bad things that were said behind my back like “oh he’s just he’s running away from something or he’s just doesn’t know what he’s or when is he going to slow down when he’s going to calm down and settle down because he’s just going crazy. He’s gone off the rocker.
I think it’s difficult for people to understand or when I say I’m chasing after something I’m not running away from anything. I’m chasing after that feeling of full self-expression and that feeling of, I’m just owning exactly who I am and in those moments, when I’m when I’m doing that thing on my bucket list that I’ve always wanted to do, I feel so alive and that’s a feeling that a lot of people don’t get very often in their life, and I’m chasing after that.
So I get pushed back or at least know I got pushed backs. After years of doing this, I think people started coming around when I started to get recognized in newspapers and websites started and podcasts and things like this started to recognize like “hey this dude has something to say. He’s pretty awesome”. Other people started to go like “maybe”. Maybe we were wrong or they just said you know like “oh I’ve always believed in you.
Athena Rosette: Right. Well I think that brings up another interesting issue or just you know topic around alter ego says is oftentimes people and we ourselves get really comfortable seeing either ourselves are the people and our lives in one context, just a certain way and that’s it. And the reality is we’re multi-dimensional, multi-faceted beings that are growing and changing constantly. And that the concept of self and who we are is always growing and shifting. And a lot of times we don’t give allowance for that within ourselves and within one another, and I think that’s what brings us to that place of being on the treadmill flake. Like you said, was it chasing versus.
Chase Boehringer: Yeah I’m chasing after something.
Athena Rosette: Yeah. I mean I think that’s what brings us to the place where we feel like we want to run away, is that we’re not allowing ourselves to do that and so I could see I could see how “people”, some people would just be like” oh this guy, what’s he doing? He’s drawing outside the line, He is not he’s not living within my understanding of what Chase is, of who chase is and so it makes people uncomfortable sometimes because, they’re like well if Chase isn’t who I think Chase is and who am I.
Chase Boehringer: Yeah it really draws up insecurity is within yourself. I think too it’s like when you see someone like chasing after their dreams like really hard, it probably brings up some insecurities and ourselves of like “what I’m not”. I’m not doing that and that instantly throws out a little bit of negativity towards that person, because if you’re positive towards that person then I have to make changes and I don’t want to make changes because that’s uncomfortable.
Athena Rosette: So long more of the story. If you get some haters, you’re probably doing something right.
Chase Boehringer: Yes it’s such a really good thing to say but also I want to throw out there that a lot of times, this is people that we love and these are people that like we really care about and it’s not easy, It’s really not easy to just hear some stuff like that and just continue going. It’s scary, it’s hard when you don’t have that support system around you. So you can’t always change people’s minds in fact a lot of times you can’t change them at all. And so I highly suggest finding other people who can be that support system for you. I’m not saying get rid of all of your old friends and your family, I’m just saying have that outlet for you of people who understand you, and whether that’s an online environment or if you can somehow find out in real life. I couldn’t find it in real life so I had to go reach out online to other people who were living the lifestyle like I was, and that was great for me and that was a huge plus to have people cheering me on to being like “wow that’s so awesome. What else do you do, where else did you go and what else did you, what did you feel like. Instead of at home in my hometown where sometimes I would feel like I wouldn’t even get through a story before someone would change the subject because it was just so uncomfortable.
Athena Rosette: Been there.
Chase Boehringer: Yeah it’s actually helpful like “oh I went to this place and this place and this and they’re like “oh OK so what time is dinner?
Athena Rosette: Well thank you so much chase. It was really great talking with you today about your journeys and going from where you came from into really stepping into your alter ego and then integrating it into who you are, I love that the Full Circle of that I know there’s so much more that we could talk about with it. Really quick, I want to hear it just what are some of the top things from your bucket list that that you’re really just super stoked about.
Chase Boehringer: I’m actually super stoked about the long term item. So I was smart enough to actually write things like “build my kids a tree house and build my dream house one day” and actually have like Coach their teams and I’m excited for the long term items because I feel like I’m crushing my list so much. I’ve completed like sixty six out of one hundred items and I just I usually get one done like every month and I feel like it started to be a little bit easier for me to like this list is becoming easier although they’re very epic items.
So for me I’m just excited about the long term ones I’m excited about like writing the story of my life one day, and I’m excited about these big more epic broad items. Those ones are starting to excite me because the little ones I’m just crushing them and I almost want that I want to be harder. I have a challenge. There’s always going to be items that I’m really excited about. I’ve never been October fest in Germany, I look forward to going to that. Next year a lot of my friends are going to Burning Man right now. So I’ll be moving to New York this weekend Instead just selling all my items right now I’m moving to New York so that’s a big one as well.
Athena Rosette: Go get it brother that’s great. Well cool so tell us how we can follow.
Chase Boehringer: You definitely thank you. So my website is TheBucketListlifestyle.com. And I also I’m sure that my name will be on this as well. Feel free, it’s my ChaseBoehringer@gmail.com. Feel free to email me and reach out. I love talking to people about where they’re at in their life and where they’re wanting to go, but yeah I’d say that theBucketListlifestyle.com is the easiest way.
Athena Rosette: Perfect and do you have Twitter or Facebook, Instagram
Chase Boehringer: I do. Its official thebucketlistlifestyle is my Instagram following and then and Facebook thebucketlistlifestyle or my name Chase Boehringer. Feel free to add me. I love talking to people who are wanting to improve their lives and grow. It’s like the funnest thing for me to have to it kind of inspire people to dream bigger cool.
Athena Rosette: Well thank you so much chase it is so great talking with you on the show today.
Chase Boehringer: Yeah thank you. It’s been amazing.
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